{"id":182,"date":"2026-07-09T17:41:57","date_gmt":"2026-07-09T17:41:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/summitrelocationtimess.com\/?p=182"},"modified":"2026-07-09T17:41:57","modified_gmt":"2026-07-09T17:41:57","slug":"how-labor-journalists-contend-with-a-constricted-and-polarized-media-landscape","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/summitrelocationtimess.com\/?p=182","title":{"rendered":"How Labor Journalists Contend With a Constricted and Polarized Media Landscape"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<article>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" allowfullscreen=\"\" height=\"90\" mozallowfullscreen=\"\" msallowfullscreen=\"\" oallowfullscreen=\"\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/41691640\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/ff0000\/\" style=\"border: none\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" webkitallowfullscreen=\"\" width=\"100%\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>The consolidation of American media outlets, the proliferation of AI into everyday life and \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>end-times fascism\u201d has thrown the world into unprecedented crises. The labor movement, too, has had some recent setbacks\u2009\u2014\u2009contending with politicization within unions, AI regulation in such contracts and declining participation in organized labor. But reporters, and the movement, have not been left\u00a0hamstrung.<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/summitrelocationtimess.com\/?p=180\">AI\u2019s Rise is Being Fueled by the Sprawling U.S. Military State<\/a><\/p>\n<p>To better understand how these issues are impacting American democracy, journalism and organized labor movements, The Real News Network Editor-in-Chief Maximillian Alvarez joined in conversation with labor reporters Hamilton Nolan, Kim Kelly and Alex Press, in\u00a0June.<\/p>\n<p>As Kelly puts it: \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>There have always been nosy people that saw some injustice, saw something horrible, oppressive, disgusting and said: \u200b<span>\u2018<\/span>I\u2019m going to figure out what\u2019s going on, I\u2019m going to tell some people about\u00a0that.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>This conversation has been edited for length and\u00a0clarity.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>Maximillian Alvarez: <\/strong>Welcome, Chicago, to this live edition of Working People. Today for this show we\u2019re going to go in a\u00a0different direction than we normally do. I\u00a0was listening to some old episodes and thinking about what my career and these stories meant to me. In These Times was one of the first outlets that even responded to an email of mine, and then they partnered with this podcast. I\u00a0wanted to ask you guys if you could just talk a\u00a0bit about how you became a\u00a0labor journalist.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hamilton Nolan<\/strong>: Thank you, Max. I\u00a0had radical parents, but when I\u00a0went into journalism, I\u00a0didn\u2019t have any connection to labor. But, as I\u00a0wrote and reported about why America is fucked up, the roads kept leading back to labor\u2026 I\u00a0was also working at Gawker, sometimes writing about labor. We successfully unionized Gawker, and it was one of the first big online media companies to organize, followed shortly by Vice and HuffPost and tons of other places\u2026 I\u00a0kept going back to labor issues, and eventually I\u00a0turned into a\u00a0full-time labor reporter. I\u00a0felt compelled to keep writing about\u00a0it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kim Kelly<\/strong>: I\u00a0don\u2019t know if there is an orthodox path towards labor reporting. I\u00a0ended up as a\u00a0labor reporter, not by accident, but certainly not really by intent. I\u00a0spent most of my life in the heavy metal world as a\u00a0music journalist and a\u00a0roadie, and I\u00a0was the heavy metal editor at Vice. A\u00a0couple weeks after I\u00a0got hired full-time, a\u00a0couple of co-workers pulled me aside and said, \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>Hey, we\u2019re thinking about unionizing. What do you think about that?\u201d I\u00a0was like, \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>Oh, thank God,\u201d because I\u2019m from a\u00a0union family\u2009\u2014\u2009all steelworkers, teachers and construction workers. I\u00a0knew what a\u00a0good thing unions were for workers, but I\u00a0never thought I\u2019d get a\u00a0chance to participate because I\u00a0was just a\u00a0writer.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>By the time I\u00a0got laid off in <span>2019<\/span>, I\u00a0think we had about <span>500<\/span> people across the company organized. I\u00a0started thinking, \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>Do people know they can do this? Maybe I\u00a0should tell them.\u201d I\u00a0fell into it, but I\u2019m glad that I\u00a0ended up becoming a\u00a0labor reporter in this way, because I\u00a0got exposed to labor and involved in labor the way that most people do by organizing my workplace, and that\u2019s a\u00a0perspective I\u00a0try to bring into everything I\u00a0do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alex Press<\/strong>: My path was actually not that dissimilar from Kim\u2019s. I\u00a0already was very much on the activist left. Naturally, as soon as I\u00a0landed at Northeastern University, I\u00a0helped start a\u00a0grad union there. I\u00a0think it took us nine years, but they did eventually join the UAW and get the vote. I\u00a0said, \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>I\u2019ll write an article about this fight,\u201d and The Nation agreed to\u00a0publish.<\/p>\n<p>I remember my PhD advisor sitting down and saying, \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>So I\u00a0just want to give you a\u00a0heads up, you\u2019re probably not going to stick around academia because you can\u2019t be writing about your employer in a\u00a0national magazine and starting a\u00a0grad union, and it\u2019s your first year of grad school.\u201d So, sure enough, I\u00a0ended up leaving and going to Jacobin magazine after a\u00a0few years of grad school. I\u00a0never stopped writing about the labor movement and I\u00a0hope I\u00a0never do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alvarez: <\/strong>Let\u2019s start with the labor question, and then we\u2019re gonna move on to some bigger stuff. Hamilton, you wrote a\u00a0great piece last year about how Biden, for all the shit that everyone in this room could point to and say Biden wasn\u2019t the most fucking pro-union president ever, you could argue that he absolutely was. I\u00a0wanted to use that as the springboard for all of y\u2019all to talk about where the organized labor movement is, and also, is it up to this\u00a0moment?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nolan: <\/strong>There\u2019s a\u00a0duality of writing about labor, which is: on the one hand, you\u2019re telling all these incredible stories, right? And then, on the other hand, the big picture is we\u2019re getting our ass kicked constantly, and you have to be honest about both those things. But, the big story of the labor movement is decline, and the most interesting question to me about organized labor in America is: \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>Why are we losing? Why does union density keep going down every\u00a0year?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When I\u00a0look around at those same institutions in labor, I\u00a0wonder \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>Where\u2019s the change?\u2026 Where\u2019s the vision from the top?\u201d It\u2019s not there within the labor movement. The closer you get to the grassroots labor movement, the more inspiring it is, and the closer you get to the top, less inspiring it\u00a0is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Press<\/strong>: The vision isn\u2019t at the top, because it never is, right? That\u2019s not where it happens. Why is it that there are such amazing people at the rank and file, but there doesn\u2019t seem to be a\u00a0way to cohere lessons we learn from the grassroots and coordinate this at the top\u00a0level?<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think we\u2019re prepared for the moment. I\u00a0think we are seeing incredible losses and tragedies, whether it\u2019s union members being deported or working people in general being killed in the streets, but I\u00a0know that many of us would like to change that and stop that\u2026 You see this incredible courage, but how do we translate that up across the\u00a0country?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kelly: <\/strong>The work, the history and the present of labor that I\u2019m most interested in is the people that have kind of been left out and what they\u2019ve done in spite of that. Some of the organizing I\u2019m most excited about in this country is the work that sex workers are doing. They\u2019re organizing, they\u2019re unionizing, they\u2019re striking, they\u2019re making it work, and they\u2019re not asking for permission from a\u00a0system that was not built to give them power. Everyone\u2019s too hard to organize if you don\u2019t\u00a0try.<\/p>\n<p>Organizing from below is the only way we\u2019re going to get anywhere, the only way we have gotten anywhere. Even our major labor laws were never passed with everyone in mind. I\u00a0still feel so much of the energy in this movement is people who have seen the ways in which the current movement, especially in its current state, does not serve them and have found ways to either organize within it to make it better for\u00a0them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alvarez<\/strong>: Those were all such phenomenal answers, and I\u00a0wanted to throw in one other example. When it comes to the hopes that maybe we had naively, like that the organized labor movement in the United States of America in <span>2026<\/span> was going to stand up as this stalwart force against fascism\u2009\u2014\u2009if our fucking whole federal government collapsed like a\u00a0house of cards, I\u00a0don\u2019t have a\u00a0whole lot of faith in our institutions here. But, I\u00a0know a\u00a0lot of unions are doing a\u00a0lot of good stuff and a\u00a0lot of union members are doing everything that they\u00a0can.<\/p>\n<p>Those types of acts can feel small in the moment but they have such massive ripple effects, rarely do we get to see that manifest like we did in Minneapolis. That was the ripple effect made manifest by people who were probably in this room right now. Labor got behind it, but you don\u2019t need to be in a\u00a0union to act like one, I\u00a0guess, is the takeaway from that great panel answer to\u00a0that.<\/p>\n<p>So, AI. Is it good or\u00a0bad?.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nolan<\/strong>: I\u2019m on [an] AI committee at the Writers Guild, and we have decided it\u2019s bad. None of us are gonna get out of this unscathed, even in the best-case scenario. This is going to be a\u00a0brutal, brutal\u00a0fight.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>The real front line of AI regulation in America is union contracts. That\u2019s the reality, that union contracts probably have more meaningful AI regulation in America than all legislation so far combined. So that\u2019s a\u00a0little scary, but it\u2019s also, if you\u2019re in a\u00a0union, that\u2019s where actual material regulation of AI is\u00a0happening.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kelly:<\/strong> So, AI, do we have any hardcore fans here? Okay, so in the words of our problematic faves, metalcore icons Earth Crisis, you know what I\u2019m gonna say: \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>destroy the\u00a0machines.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/summitrelocationtimess.com\/?p=175\">The Elite \u2018OK\u2019 to Police Our Every Thought and Move<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s certainly going to become harder and harder for people like me who are trying to tell these stories and keep a\u00a0foothold in journalism. I\u00a0take a\u00a0little bit of comfort in knowing that even if AI trained on every single thing I\u2019ve ever written\u2009\u2014\u2009which, good luck if it gets into the early <span>2000<\/span>s\u2009\u2014\u2009it\u2019s still not gonna be able to sit next to someone at a\u00a0bar and go: \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>Tell me about what\u2019s going on with your job. How are your kids? How are you feeling? What did your boss\u00a0say?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That human connection is what makes journalism matter\u2009\u2014\u2009a\u00a0machine can\u2019t do that. I\u00a0really hope that that means as much to the rest of the world as it means to me and it means to us. Again, shout out to In These Times for giving us a\u00a0place to do\u00a0that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>To me, at least, and I\u00a0think for many people in the international labor movement\u2019s history, it\u2019s not that you\u2019re anti-tech. But, under capitalism\u2009\u2014\u2009technology, from development stage through deployment stage\u2009\u2014\u2009will always be engineered based on what\u2019s profitable for a\u00a0specific subset of the population, it\u2019s not going to be for social\u00a0good.<\/p>\n<p>I think the writers and the actors were the canary in the coal mine three years ago about how serious this is about to be, and we\u2019ve seen that they\u2019ve proven quite correct on that. So, when we talk about, say, getting provisions about no jobs can be replaced by AI; certain provisions like that are absolutely important and some unions and union members have been winning on that, especially writers and\u00a0journalists.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alvarez:<\/strong> I\u00a0would just ask of those union members who are going to have those debates: Everyone needs a\u00a0job and it\u2019s not really any working person\u2019s purview to think beyond, \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>I got to provide for me and\u00a0mine.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>But, as someone who does that type of reporting now on sacrifice zones, toxic pollution and all that, I\u00a0can\u2019t not see it. I\u00a0see the toxic husks of industries past peppered throughout this landscape. We have to also think about that because I\u2019m talking to residents living near these data centers and they\u2019re describing horrors to me. They\u2019re getting heart palpitations, they\u2019re bleeding from their ears, it sounds like living on an airport runway. Imagine that <span>24<\/span>\/<span>7<\/span>, you would go\u00a0insane.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It shouldn\u2019t be our job to think about all that, but clearly no one else is taking it into consideration, so if not us, who? Because the people who are making the decisions are the ones plopping those fucking things down in our communities, I\u00a0don\u2019t care how many jobs they provide and frankly, neither do the people who own them. It\u2019s on us to think for the\u00a0future.<\/p>\n<p>These billionaires are destroying our planet, they\u2019re going to war and destroying other countries and profiting from it, but they are also gobbling up every legacy and social media platform they can and using them to warp our brains, warp our sense of reality and make our jobs\u00a0impossible.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nolan: <\/strong>I\u2019ve been covering Donald Trump since the fucking <span>2015<\/span> Iowa caucus. That was <span>2015<\/span>, and this motherfucker is the most powerful political figure of my lifetime now. Unfortunately, I\u00a0think it\u2019s a\u00a0very, very deep question: \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>Why does the worst guy in America have the most\u00a0power?\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>I think capitalism is probably the short answer, everything that we are seeing from the UFC fights on the lawn to Donald Trump to East Palestine is the inevitable operations of capitalism playing out according to its own\u00a0logic.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kelly: <\/strong>That was a\u00a0moment for journalism too\u2026 around <span>2017<\/span>\u2026 when the alt-right as we knew it shriveled and died. But now those same guys are in charge of us, so we didn\u2019t win that war, but we did show that there is power in\u00a0journalism.<\/p>\n<p>We have a\u00a0very long and fucked-up history here in America, but there have always been nosy people that saw some injustice, saw something horrible, oppressive, disgusting and said: \u200b<span>\u201c<\/span>I\u2019m going to figure out what\u2019s going on, I\u2019m going to tell some people about that,\u201d and it has always\u00a0mattered.<\/p>\n<p>It hasn\u2019t always won the war, solved the problem or saved people\u2019s lives, but sometimes it\u00a0has.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Press: <\/strong>I\u00a0think a\u00a0lot of people have forgotten the baseline critique of corporate media, which is that it\u2019s for-profit and it\u2019s geared towards an affluent consumer base, so not the working class. Great journalists work in mainstream media, but they\u2019re now suffering and not able to do their work. I\u00a0want to build institutions that can reach working-class people in America that are not subservient to the ultra-rich, whether it\u2019s their funders or their advertisers, or that\u2019s their targeted audience. And In These Times\u2009\u2014\u2009it\u2019s one of those\u00a0institutions.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alvarez: <\/strong>One of my first bylines was at In These Times. I\u00a0remember it was a\u00a0piece that I\u00a0co-authored with a\u00a0UAW member on strike. In These Times worked with us, me and this union member who wasn\u2019t used to writing for online magazines. That struck me as incredibly\u00a0special.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nolan: <\/strong>I\u00a0worked at Gawker, which was around for about a\u00a0little over <span>10<\/span>\u00a0years, and then it disappeared. The next place I\u00a0worked, called Splinter, that place was around about three years before it disappeared, and In These Times been around <span>50<\/span> fucking\u00a0years.<\/p>\n<p>The older I\u00a0get, the more I\u00a0really appreciate the importance of the institutions that we have in our\u00a0movements.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kelly: <\/strong>There\u2019s a\u00a0lot of publications out there, and I\u2019ve written for most of them. This really is a\u00a0special place, they do the hard-hitting reporting, the in-depth analysis, all the things you want from a\u00a0publication\u2009\u2014\u2009and they also give us space to do what we really want to\u00a0do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Press: <\/strong>I\u00a0think it\u2019s a\u00a0world of difference to have outlets that understand and actually see the working class as both their readership, their contributors, and the community that they\u2019re in a\u00a0conversation with. I\u00a0just want to thank In These Times so much for continuing to exist. I\u00a0know it\u2019s not\u00a0easy.<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/summitrelocationtimess.com\/?p=173\">On America\u2019s 250th Anniversary, Democracy Is On the Ropes<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><em>This episode of the <\/em>Working People Podcast <em>was published on June\u00a0<span>18<\/span>.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A conversation with four labor journalists on the state of organized worker\u2019s movements, unions and reporting in the age of AI.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":181,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-labor","category-podcast"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>How Labor Journalists Contend With a Constricted and Polarized Media Landscape - 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